That UL safety logo is a lot more complicated than it looks

UL Solutions is best known for testing products and certifying them with the UL mark, a symbol that has become a trusted shorthand for safety.

The company is now pushing into standards for AI systems and connected devices, including work on UL 3115 for emerging tech.

Its certification business matters because it can shape consumer trust and help define how new products are regulated and verified.

At the same time, UL has faced political pressure and lost a government cyber safety role amid concerns over China and U.S. oversight.

The interview highlights how safety certification is expanding from appliances and electronics into the broader world of AI, IoT, and cyber risk.